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Nexus, Publish By GHD.
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Where ideas connect.
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Well, welcome to the Nexus podcast.
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I'm Ben Hall.
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Global thought leadership manager, GHD.
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Today
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we're looking at one of
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the most important
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and least visible shifts
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in the energy transition.
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Active grid control
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as renewables,
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electrification and distributed energy
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reshape our networks.
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The real question isn't
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just how much we build.
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It's how intelligently we operate.
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Well, joining me is Ian
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Lloyd, technical director
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for network innovation
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for GHD in the UK.
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Ian, great to have you with us. Yeah.
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Thank you. Ben.
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Nice to be here.
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Oh that's great to hear Luke.
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And let's start.
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Do you have an article on Nexus
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which talks about a quiet
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revolution happening
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beneath the physical infrastructure
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of the energy transition?
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What's changing in our networks
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that makes active control
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so critical right now?
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I think Ben, one of the
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most significant changes
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at the grid has gone
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from the one way
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a uni directional delivery network
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into a
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a real time
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balancing system,
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with more wind, more solar,
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more electrification,
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more distributed resources
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that are peppered across
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their networks.
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We've got variability,
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bi directional flows,
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lower inertia in different places.
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So stability doesn't
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come for free anymore in terms of
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having so many hundreds
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of tons of spinning
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resistive power systems
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that are connected to the network.
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That's why active grid control matters.
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It's the intelligence layer
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now that keeps reliability high
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while unlocking
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data flexibility for the future.
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And as you mentioned
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historically, networks
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were passive and largely
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uni directional.
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And so what does it mean
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in practical terms
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to move to this dynamic
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bidirectional system
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that you've just spoken about.
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And why can't traditional control
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approaches cope with that shift?
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So in practical terms, power
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now does flow both ways.
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It's it's also
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peppered across the network.
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So we're not
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we're not anchored
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by big power stations
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that are centralized within.
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So like
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you mean certain areas of the country
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that feed transmission networks.
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These power systems now
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they do feed both way.
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So they they're bi directional.
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Customers can generate,
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they can store, they can shift demands.
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Constraints appear
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locally and very quickly.
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Everything happens very quickly
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into into the electrical domain.
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Things can get exciting very rapidly
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and not always in a in a good sense.
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And so those traditional approaches
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were built
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for predictable,
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loads really so like
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can we discuss them,
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some of
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the deterministic engineering
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that was involved in the delivery of so
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like of the power networks
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that we're used to
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and we've been
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we've been very reliant on them
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for over 100 years. Right.
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And there's
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been many thousands
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of very knowledgeable brains
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that have aided the engineering
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and the design and the
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and the predictability
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about the controlling
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the scheduling of the generation.
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That has been critically important
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for decentralized systems.
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But yet they've had much slower
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operator responses.
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People have had time
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just to be able to like, finesse
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exactly what they should naturally do.
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A good analogy, Ben, right?
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Is
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when I first started
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in the industry,
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people started discussing
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about how they schedule generation
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to come onto the network.
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And that scheduling of,
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generation
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was based on a number
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of different variable factors.
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It would be the time of the year,
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it would be the weather forecast.
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It would be so like the predicted.
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So like load it uptake
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and then in, in in a world
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where there was only 3
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or 4 TV channels,
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TV times,
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which would act as a very strong guide
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for the likely pickup of load. Right.
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And I remember certain scenarios where
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where the World Cup, right,
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or half time in the World Cup
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cause such a, such a
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a big load increase with everybody
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putting on their kettles right there.
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It caused a cost, a real concern.
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so that deterministic state
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is somewhat shifted away.
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And today we need better
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visibility, some faster coordination,
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of many hundreds
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or maybe even millions of future assets
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that are peppered across the networks
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as we will end up
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curtailing renewables,
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fire fighting faults over
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reinforcing networks
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or taking more operational risks.
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Yeah.
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And you mentioned, you know, the
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the kettle analogy.
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I mean,
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and not just the grid systems,
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but pretty much everything these days,
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lot more complex than they used to be.
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Is.
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And it's the same, isn't it, for
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for where you're working.
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absolutely the same.
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And the,
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variability of technologies,
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the locational situation
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about naturally
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where they exist
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and becomes a very active component
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in terms
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of like the new control systems
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that are required for the future.
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You outline primary,
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secondary, tertiary
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and even emerging core
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ordinary controllers.
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Can we break down
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how that hierarchy works
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in simple terms or plain terms.
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And why that architecture
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is so important for resilience.
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There's always a,
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hierarchy of control
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solutions that sit within
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within power systems, networks
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and primary
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control
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is all instances really site
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the engineered control solutions
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that make sure that that our networks,
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are responsive and they can
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they can be
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they can be fast
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in terms of select
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the detection of faults,
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the clearing of faults,
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the management of voltage control